Category Archives: Concealed Carry Pistols and Accessories

A Modular Aluminum Framed Glock?

I came across an interesting pistol this week. It was at Weaponsmart in Lewiston, ID. Sitting a couple shelves below Glock pistols was one of these pistols that looks, at first glance, like a customized Glock. However, even a casual glance could tell there was something different.

Upon handling, I could immediately tell that the pistol felt different. It has an aluminum frame. The slide felt like a Glock, with the typical “sproinginess.” While spronginess isn’t in the dictionary, it accurately describes what I feel when I rack the slide on a Glock. My G21 does it in spades. The trigger feels kinda like a Glock, but quite a bit crisper. The pistol also has screws in various places that your typical Glock doesn’t have. Visually, the double undercut trigger, different cut slide, and different grip texture show it’s clearly something else…

It’s the ZRO Delta Modulus.

The pistol feels solid, and I’m a sucker for metal-framed pistols, so I purchased it. Essentially, it’s a $919 Glock 19. Perhaps a little expensive, but perhaps the modularity and better feel will be worth it. Besides, I need to see if it fits in a standard Glock holster.

When they brought out the pistol, it was in a nice case. Unfortunately, the case has a bunch of empty, open holes. I was told that those are for the “deployment kit” which provides two more slides, different magwells and backstraps, as well as different size dust covers. The case is pretty cool… but pretty empty.

Inside is my new pistol, some extra screws, a tool, a Glock Pmag, a USB key (I assume it has instructions on it), and some other stuff.

While I’ve not yet had a chance to run the pistol, I have checked it with the Werkz M6 holster for the Glock 19 with the Olight Baldr Mini. It didn’t fit. The rail places the light lower versus the bore axis and causes interference. Bummer.

I think this could be an interesting pistol development. Or it could be a flop. What do you think of it?

Brugger & Thomet APC9K Pistol

I have a bit of a fascination with pistol caliber carbines (PCCs). The compact & lightweight nature, along with the ability to more easily maneuver indoors, makes them an attractive choice for home defense, or even as a truck gun. No, I’m not likely to make a 200 yard shot with one, but if I need a defensive tool at close range, a PPC is potentially a great solution.

After doing some searching for one, I ended up narrowing the field down to the Brugger & Thomet (B&T) APC9. Why? To be honest, what sold me was touching and feeling one at Shot Show 2020. They feel like very well made weapons. After learning that B&T was coming out with a “Pro” version with fully ambidextrous controls, non-reciprocating charging handles, and utilizing AR style grips, I was sold.

I would have preferred the APC9SD, but it was difficult to find one in the “Pro” configuration. Mostly due to availability, I ended up purchasing the APC9K

After purchasing from Modern Warriors in Utah, the pistols was shipped to my FFL, from where I recently picked it up.

My particular pistol is configured with the folding arm brace. I also decided to separately purchase the Glock lower, accepting standard Glock double stack 9mm magazines. This just makes sense given that Werkz focuses on pistol holsters, and we sell a ton of holsters for folks running this magazine configuration. It’s what I run. So my carbine shares magazines with my carry pistol.

Initial impressions of the pistol? It’s as well made as those I picked up at Shot Show. It’s finely machined, and I expect it to be super reliable. Controls feel good. Arm brace feels solid. The magazines insert into the lower with a solid feel, and drop freely. With the stock folded, the whole pistol feels tiny. It’s really small. This would work well in a nice leather briefcase or messenger bag. Unfortunately, I’ve not had the chance to shoot it yet, so these are only bench impressions.

What do we plan to do with it? Plenty, including:

  • Add the Cloud Defensive OWL
  • Form 1 and switch over to the B&T retractable stock
  • Add an optic, probably the Trijicon MRO HD, but possibly the Vortex UH-1 Gen II
  • I’m looking to purchase a suppressor
  • Add a sling
  • Carry it around in a compact bag of some sort

Beyond all that, I’ll use it as a test platform to develop mag carrier solutions for those super long 33-round Glock 9mm magazines.

This gives me more to do… as if I wasn’t busy enough already. 🙂

Interesting Item from Shot Show 2020: A RRA Glock?

There was just so much to see at Shot Show 2020. We cannot write about them all, but I did notice something that looked like a Glock at the Rock Island Armory booth.

A RIA Glock?

They said there will be lots of different customization options. Different slide cuts, different colors. Oh yes, and the frame is all aluminum. Feels like a Glock in the hand, except… more solid. Same Glock slide feel, same Glock trigger feel. Just a more solid grip. They said something about April availability and a MSRP around $800.

We’ll see…

Will a Holster for an Olight PL-Mini Work With the PL-Mini 2?

At Shot Show 2019 in February, Olight launched the PL-Mini Valkyrie 2. This light was different than the original PL-Mini Valkyrie in a number of ways, but one of the most important for holster fitment is that the light was redesigned to be shorter and fit better on subcompact pistols.

This change in form factor made the light both shorter, and slightly increased the height of the light.

The PL-Mini (original) is longer and not as tall.

The PL-Mini 2 is shorter and taller.

Note that the original PL-Mini is longer than the PL-Mini 2

As a result, holsters built for a pistol with one of the PL-Mini versions will not work with the same pistol but the other PL-Mini version. You cannot expect a holster for a Glock 19 with the PL-Mini Valkyrie 2 to fit the same Glock 19 with a PL-Mini Valkyrie (and vice-versa).

Note that the PL-Mini 2 is taller (hangs lower on the rail)_ than the original PL-Mini

So… how do you determine which light you have? The Pl-Mini Valkrie 2 has a bit “2” on the right side of the light. That will help you ensure that the holster you order is fit for your light.

Today’s Carry: Glock 19 Gen5 with Streamlight TLR-8

Can you believe that Glock was introduced to the US in 1984? I still remember the cries of the news media that the plastic pistol was unable to be detected in airports. Oh the ignorance.

Who would have figured that this Glock would turn out to be one of the top selling handguns? I didn’t… but I was 16 at the time. Turns out that the Glock 19 is one of the best “do it all” handguns, and frequently recommended for both beginners and experienced shooters. I admit that I resisted carrying the Glock for years. I didn’t like the trigger feel. It took me a while to grow to the point that I didn’t need a clean trigger to hit the target. At that point I reconsidered the Glock.

The Glock 19 is a great handling pistol. For me, it’s small enough to carry every day without problem (turns out I can carry a G34 every day without a problem too, so maybe this isn’t a tough criteria), it has a consistent trigger pull from shot to shot (no, not perfectly crisp, but definitely workable), has a proven safety record, is reliable, and looks cool in a brick-sort of way.

The Gen5 Glock 19 provides an updated slide profile (slightly narrower toward the muzzle), a new barrel, no finger grooves (my fingers don’t fit in the Gen3/4), and though many people may not notice this, it has a slightly different rail which can prohibit the Gen5 from fitting in holsters fit for the Gen3/4.

In all, I don’t think I can go wrong carrying the Glock 19 Gen5.

This particular pistol is paired with a Streamlight TLR-8. It has 500 lumens, a bright red laser, ambidextrous controls with constant on plus a momentary switch, and a reputation for being rugged. 500 lumens puts it toward the higher end of light output for a compact weapon mounted light. The activation switches can be used with either hand on either side. To use a momentary activation, just press on the switch for longer than a fraction of a second, and when you let off the light/laser will turn off. If you hit the button for less than a second, the light/laser will turn on and stay on until you hit the button again. It can be switched between “light”, “laser”, and “both” modes by pressing both switches at the same time.

One of the best things about the TLR-8 is that it fits quite well on a Glock. It fits flush with the G19 muzzle, and only hangs slightly lower than the trigger guard on the G19. This means that the operator can carry this light & laser quite easily on many pistols.

Werkz M6 Holster for Glock 19 with TLR-8

Our Werkz M6 holster is a great place to park this formidable combination. It has all the normal M6 features. Claw for better concealment (can be removed if you wish, but I’m leaving it on). A single clip that can be used in a number of positions. Modularity for other attachments. RMR and suppressor height sight support. Adjustable retention. This particular holster is ambidextrous, which means that you can switch the clip and claw (left handed claws are available separately) to the other side for left handed carry. Or you can just switch the clip to the other side and carry the holster OWB. This works well for those range days where you want to put the holster on the outside of your pants, but in the same overall position. I’m carrying this pistol straight drop, standard carry height, on my hip about 3:30. This carry position seems to work well for most. I typically prefer carrying in the appendix position, but I find this position both comfortable and concealable. The pistol just sits tight to my body. The full grip is exposed and it’s easy to get a proper grip before drawing. Retention is sufficient for an inside the waistband holster, and I didn’t need to adjust any tighter or looser for my tastes.

This is what I’m carrying today: The Gen5 G19, the Streamlight TLR-8, and the Werkz M6 holster. Allows me to do everything I would normally do during the day, carrying comfortably.

Wearing the Glock 19 and TLR-8 while working on the bulldozer

Concealed carry tip: Rotate the belt

When carrying in the appendix position, some holsters can interfere with the belt buckle. For instance, with wider attachments, the leftmost attachment might want to go right over my belt buckle, which often doesn’t work.

Here the belt buckle may interfere with the preferred appendix carry position. It also protrudes out further.

Here, the belt buckle adds to the overall width of the beltline from the appendix carry position.

In addition to being in the way, sometimes the buckle sticks out. I have a number of belts with a cobra buckle, and even if I can center it without it interfering with my preferred carry position, it adds another 1/2″ or more to my waistline.

I have a simple tip to address these two issues that you may have already thought of.

Instead of changing how or where you carry, move your belt buckle. That’s right… it doesn’t need to be pointed straight forward. For a right handed shooter, move the belt buckle to the left to gain additional clearance for the holster clip. It’s simple and effective. Who says you must have your buckle straight forward on your centerline? Not me, especially when it affects my concealed carry!

Here the belt buckle is moved to the side, allowing me to carry the pistol exactly where I want and reducing beltline girth.

Here the belt buckle is moved to the side, allowing me to carry the pistol exactly where I want and reducing beltline girth.

Which Inforce APLc for your Sig Sauer P320?

Perhaps you already have a Sig Sauer P320 and are looking to get a weapon mounted light. While there are lots of good options on the market, the Inforce APLc is a popular one because of a few reasons.

The light itself is small, and has a mostly snag-free design. This is an important carry consideration as designs with big levers or arms can snag on clothing and necessitate a larger holster to carry.  The light has 200 lumens, which is adequate for most situations (I would advocate carrying a handheld light as well for situations where you don’t want to point your pistol at something you wouldn’t want to shoot — but that’s a whole different topic), and the runtime is adequate at 1.5 hours.  Finally, the switches are available on both sides, allowing you to manipulate with strong hand or reaction hand.  This all adds up to a very popular package for users.

But there are 2 different versions of the APLc.  There is an “APLc” and “APLc for Glock“.  The difference between the 2 is not immediately obvious, but if you look close, you’ll see that the APLc for Glock places the screw (which goes through the rail slots) further forward than the regular APLc.

This might make you think that you must purchase the APLc for your Sig Sauer P320. However, that is not the case.

APLc for Glock

APLc

As you can see from the above pictures, the screw may be positioned differently, but the light appears to be mounted in the same position.  Why is this?  It’s because the APLc for Glock and the APLc simply have their screw travel through different rail slots; the rail slot spacing is the same as the spacing difference between the different versions of the APLc.

Why is this important?  Say you have a number of different pistols you may choose to use your weapon mounted light with?  Perhaps you’re not sure if you’re going to run your APLc on your Sig or your Glock?  You can purchase the APLc for Glock, and use it on either pistol.  Similarly, perhaps you’re wanting to switch your light between the P320 and the HK VP9sk (the APLc for Glock won’t fit this HK), then get the regular APLc and you’re covered.

While this article is in relation to the popular Sig Sauer P320, it likely applies to a number of different pistol models.  If you choose carefully, you can maximize the interchange of your APLc on various pistols.

Here is a video showing what is discussed above.

Will your new Gen5 Glock 19 with a light or laser attachment fit in your current holster?

Recently, I tried our Gen5 G19 with an Inforce APLc in a Werkz Minimalist 2.0 holster designed on the previous generation Glocks.  It didn’t fit properly.  Here is what I found out.

First, a bit of background.  Most holsters fit tightly around the pistol and (if attached) light or laser, especially when fully holstered.  This prevents the pistol from moving around a lot and gives proper retention and feel.  For a Kydex holster, key areas of retention are around the sides, where the Kydex has “give”.  This allows the Kydex to flex in for retention and flex out on draw.  Near the top of the slide or around the bottom of the holster, there is less give because this is where the holster comes together.  Further, the Kydex is quite strong around those areas.  For a holster to fit properly, the distance from the top of the slide to the bottom of the light is critical.  And that is where the problem is for the Gen5 Glock 19 we tried.

I tested the holster with the Gen4 G19, and it fit properly.  I also tested the holster with the Gen5, and it fit too tightly.  So tightly in fact that I would have had a difficult time drawing cleanly.  This wasn’t an item I could resolve by adjusting the retention screw, and it wasn’t because the holster didn’t have clearance for the ambi slide release.  So, I measured my pistol in a number of places, and here is what I found.

G19 Gen4 G19 Gen5
Top of Slide to Bottom of dust cover – front of trigger guard 36.7 36.7
Top of Slide to Bottom of dust cover – at rail slot 33.8 34.5
Top of Slide to Bottom of dust cover – end of muzzle 35.7 36.7
Frame Width – front of trigger guard 29.4 29.4
Frame Width – at rail slot 20.8 20.8
Frame Width – end of muzzle 20.9 21
Slide Width 25.5 25.6
Top of Slide to Bottom of IAPLc 60.2 61

The cells highlighted in yellow are the most concerning.  It seems that the Gen5 Glock puts the light almost 1mm lower than the previous generations.  This small change can result in a holster that fits properly on a previous generation NOT fit properly with the Gen5.  Due to the importance of that dimension in the holster, it is quite likely that the Gen5 holsters will require a different design — not just for the slide release, but also for the lower rail position.

Werkz is working on updates to their holsters to accommodate, and will be distinguishing between the Gen5 and previous generations for custom holsters.  But this is something you should be aware of when purchasing your Gen5 Glock, and especially if you’re purchasing a special holster just for your Gen5.  Make sure it will work with your combination.

Here is more information in a video…

One final thing: Werkz is now making Gen5 Glock 19 holsters.  These holsters are specifically designed for and tested with the Gen5 Glock 19.

Live Armed!